Sabrina Carpenter praises Taylor Swift, mentions her favorites on TTPD, and clarifies Taylor’s reaction to her SKIMS campaign in a new interview with Rolling Stone magazine. “I hold her to such a different echelon, I could never compare my life, my career, my trajectory to anything close to what she’s done.” She also reveals that ‘But Daddy I Love Him’ and ‘Guilty As Sin?’ are her favorites on “The Tortured Poets Department”. Sabrina also mentions that Taylor Swift had no issue with her SKIMS campaign “I’ve been very communicative with her about that situation. But I know people will just say things because that’s all they have time to do.”

O n a warm day in July of last year, Sabrina Carpenter woke up in a tiny village south of Paris and headed to a crêperie, which happened to be the only restaurant in town. The singer had just finished some tour dates and was spending a bit of downtime exploring France. Like any self-respecting European café, this crêperie, Carpenter noticed, served espresso. An idea for a song arose — one that would grow into this year’s likely song of the summer. Released in April, “Espresso” is a preposterously catchy pop jam full of cheeky quotables, including a chorus built around the unlikely phrase “that’s that me espresso.” Carpenter has had the song stuck in her head since France; these days, it’s probably stuck in yours. “I decided to put that burden on other people,” she explains wryly.

Like any pop-culture phenomenon, “Espresso” has generated a slew of memes, and Carpenter has seen them all. Back stateside, the singer sits at a corner table of a cafe in New York’s West Village on a warm day in May, wearing blue jeans, black-rimmed glasses, and a white-gold-and-diamond ring emblazoned with her initials. The meme-ification of “Espresso” has been something to behold. In rare internet form, it isn’t born out of ridicule or snark; most jokes play on how catchy the song is. Carpenter recognizes a couple of tweets I show her; one warns folks about drinking “the me espresso” at Chili’s (“That sounds a little like poison,” Carpenter notes). There’s another one she’d reposted onto her Instagram page: “Excuse me where is the me espresso” asks one user in the supermarket coffee aisle.

“Espresso” is a global smash, and it’s unlocked a new level of stardom for Carpenter. Yet, when I meet her, the 25-year-old is calm and cerebral about it all. “My mom has been like, ‘Do you feel crazy right now?’” Carpenter says. “I just love that people get my sense of humor.”

Carpenter has spent more than a decade in the public eye, first in a starring role on a Disney series and later as a singer with a slew of sunny hits, the vocal chops to command a stadium audience, and a pen game that’s brutally honest about the ups and downs of love and stardom. “The way she puts things, I’m immediately right there with her,” Carpenter’s collaborator Jack Antonoff says of her songwriting. “And [for] anyone who’s got to see her live, let alone record her, she’s an unbelievable singer. When you’re in the presence of that kind of voice, all you want to do is capture it.”